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[dadadev] Dada Mail 3.0 beta 2 Released

2008-05-05T23:35:03Z

Beta 2 was released earlier this morning -

Here's the change log - thanks for all your input and bug reports.
We're getting very closet to a release.

I've heard that Cpanels which have SimpleScripts can do an upgrade
from 3.0 ba to 3.0 b2, I haven't played with it myself, although
Bluehost has given me some test accounts (thanks, guys!)

Download 3.0 Beta 2

* tar.gz

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mojomail/dada-3_0_beta_2.tar.gz?use_mirror=osdn
* zip

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mojomail/dada-3_0_beta_2.zip?use_mirror=osdn

These changes are between 3.0 beta 1 and 3.0 beta 2

Changes 3.0 Beta 2

Beatitude

The Beatitude-Specific Plugin Config, FCKeditor_Support param has been
removed.

Dada Mail Admin Menu

The left hand side admin menu now shows how many mailouts per list,
and per Dada Mail install, in the, ``Monitor Your Mailings'' menu item

Dada Mail Queueing Notifications

There are now messages on top of the, Send a List Message, Send a
Webpage and Send a List Invitation screens to let you know if the
limit of individual mass mailings has been reached and if the message
you're about to send will be queued. This is to help any confusion
about why messages don't go out right away.

Bug Fixes

The following bug fixes seem to be fixed, but are still labeled as,
Pending in the BugTraq

General

* 1957601 3.0 b1 - included CPAN modules out of date

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1957601&group_id=13002&atid=113002
* 1957147 3.0 b1 - note that unsub is from bouncing never applied

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1957147&group_id=13002&atid=113002
* 1948393 3.0 b1 - Default $CAPTCHA_TYPE set to, ``reCATPCHA''...

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1948393&group_id=13002&atid=113002
* 1948391 3.0 b1 - Archive send to a friend CATPCHA directions
show...

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1948391&group_id=13002&atid=113002

Mail Sending

* 1957152 3.0 b1 - queued msgs get in the way of sending test msgs

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1957152&group_id=13002&atid=113002
* 1957026 3.0 b1 - sending multiple messages per SMTP con. broken

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1957026&group_id=13002&atid=113002
* 1957017 3.0 b1 - enabling Clickthrough breaks mass mailings

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1957017&group_id=13002&atid=113002

Dada Bridge

* 3.0 b1 - POP SSL connection is broken

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1951108&group_id=13002&atid=113002
* 1950165 3.0 b1 - Incorrect API for Net::POP3Tools for quit'ing
con.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1950165&group_id=13002&atid=113002
* 1949432 3.0 b1 - Authorized Senders enabled breaks discussion
lists

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1949432&group_id=13002&atid=113002

Beatitude

* 1947601 3.0 b1 - FCKEditor enabled falsely gives blank HTML ver

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1947601&group_id=13002&atid=113002

Mystery Girl (Bounce Handler)

* 1957141 3.0 b1 - Bouncing email addy's never removed (SQL
backend)

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1957141&group_id=13002&atid=113002

Multiple Subscribe Extension

* 1947602 3.0 b1 - $DADA::CONFIG::PROGRAM_URL - used only once?

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1947602&group_id=13002&atid=113002

dada_digest.pl Extension

Note: This extension is currently deprecated.

* 1951409 3.0 b1 - dada_digest.pl ext. sends msgs to non-digest
list -

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1951409&group_id=13002&atid=113002
* 1948424 3.0 b1 - dada_digest.pl ext. not fully ported to 3.0 API

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1948424&group_id=13002&atid=113002

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Dada Mail - Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software
url: http://mojo.skazat.com

[dadadev] Re: 3.0 beta test message

2008-05-01T04:35:02Z

On May 1, 2008, at 2:20 AM, Frans Gouverne wrote:
> So I think it would be a good idea if Dada is also looking into the
> SQL Subscribers table to find the email address for a test message,
> and not only for a real mailing list message.
>

I think it's a great idea.

I'll make a note of it.

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Dada Mail - Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software
url: http://mojo.skazat.com

On May 1, 2008, at 2:20 AM, Frans Gouverne wrote:

>
> Hi Justin,
>
> When I send a test message, the subscriber field tags are not filled
> in. I have added the list owner email address to the Subscribers
> list of course. Also, when I fill in a different email address from
> the subscriber list at the field "Send Test Messages To:", the
> subscriber fields are not replaced.
>
> Filling in these tags is quite essential for me when submitting a
> test message, to be able to verify if the tags are replaced
> correctly and how they look like.
>
> So I think it would be a good idea if Dada is also looking into the
> SQL Subscribers table to find the email address for a test message,
> and not only for a real mailing list message.
>
> What do you think about this?
>
> Regards,
> Frans
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[dadadev] 3.0 beta test message

2008-05-01T04:20:03Z

Hi Justin,

When I send a test message, the subscriber field tags are not filled in. I
have added the list owner email address to the Subscribers list of course.
Also, when I fill in a different email address from the subscriber list at
the field "Send Test Messages To:", the subscriber fields are not replaced.

Filling in these tags is quite essential for me when submitting a test
message, to be able to verify if the tags are replaced correctly and how
they look like.

So I think it would be a good idea if Dada is also looking into the SQL
Subscribers table to find the email address for a test message, and not only
for a real mailing list message.

What do you think about this?

Regards,
Frans

[dadadev] test,

2008-04-25T04:01:14Z

test,

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url: http://mojo.skazat.com

[dadadev] Re: 3.0 Beta 1 is out

2008-04-24T15:15:03Z

On Apr 24, 2008, at 5:10 AM, Nick Vervoort wrote:

[dadadev] Re: 3.0 Beta 1 is out

2008-04-24T07:10:03Z

Thnx, it solved. Jet i found a new problem with the bouncehandler (didn't have any problems with the bouncehandler before):

When I run: Mystery Girl � Parsing Bounces

It connects good with the pop box and reads the messages: then I get:

Software error:
Base class package "DADA::App::BounceScoreKeeper::MySQL" is empty.
(Perhaps you need to 'use' the module which defines that package first.)
at ..//DADA/App/BounceScoreKeeper.pm line 16
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ..//DADA/App/BounceScoreKeeper.pm line 16.

For help, please send mail to the webmaster (...@example.com">webm...@example.com), giving this error message and the time and date of the error.
Content-type: text/html
Software error:

[Thu Apr 24 12:39:41 2008] dada_bounce_handler.pl: Base class package "DADA::App::BounceScoreKeeper::MySQL" is empty.
[Thu Apr 24 12:39:41 2008] dada_bounce_handler.pl: (Perhaps you need to 'use' the module which defines that package first.)
[Thu Apr 24 12:39:41 2008] dada_bounce_handler.pl: at ..//DADA/App/BounceScoreKeeper.pm line 16
[Thu Apr 24 12:39:41 2008] dada_bounce_handler.pl: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ..//DADA/App/BounceScoreKeeper.pm line 16.
Compilation failed in require at dada_bounce_handler.pl line 1460.

My MySQL database has a table named: dada_bounce_scores

In .dada_config

$BOUNCE_SCORECARD_DB_TYPE ||= 'MySQL';

$PLUGIN_CONFIGS ||= {

   Mystery_Girl => {

   Server => 'mail.example.com',
   Username => ...@example.com">'boun...@example.com',
   Password => 'password',
   USESSL => undef,
   AUTH_MODE => undef,
   Log => undef,
   Send_Messages_To => undef,
   MessagesAtOnce => undef,
   Max_Size_Of_Any_Message => undef,
   Default_Soft_Bounce_Score => undef,
   Default_Hard_Bounce_Score => undef,
   Score_Threshold => undef,
   Allow_Manual_Run => undef,
   Manual_Run_Passcode => undef,
   Plugin_URL => undef,
   Rules => undef,
   Bounce_Handler_Name => undef,


   },
};

When viewing in dadamail the confi settings:

AUTH_MODE BEST
Allow_Manual_Run1
Default_Hard_Bounce_Score4
Default_Soft_Bounce_Score1
Log /path/to/files/.dada_files/.logs/bounces.txt
Manual_Run_Passcode
Max_Size_Of_Any_Message2621440
MessagesAtOnce100
Password(Not Shown)

Plugin_URL http://www.example.com/cgi-bin/dada/plugins/dada_bounce_handler.pl
Program_Name Mystery Girl
Score_Threshold 10
Send_Messages_To
Server mail.example.com
USESSL 0
Username ...@examples.com">boun...@examples.com

Thanx for any reponse :)

Regards,

Nick (Netherlands)

Don't do:

- Print the 'Return-Path' header in all list emails

My guess:

- dada 3.0 isnt handling the return-path header correctly

- or my server is changing it (if, maybe someone has a solution?)

Sometimes, you can't set the Return-Path the way you are trying to. The only other thing to try is to use SMTP.

--
Justin J.

Dada Mail - Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software
url: http://mojo.skazat.com

On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:10 AM, Nick Vervoort wrote:

I dont know if this is a bug, or its my server (directadmin, freebsd):

I am trying to set the Return-Path:
it's auto filled with: ...@skazat.com">d...@skazat.com i remove this value, and enter my own, e.g. ...@example.com">boun...@example.com

I have the following things activated in sending options:
- Print list-specific headers in all list emails
- Add the Sendmail '-f' flag when sending messages using /usr/sbin/sendmail
- Print the 'Return-Path' header in all list emails

If i look in the mail it states:
Return-Path: <...@server.example.com">adm...@server.example.com>

My guess:

- dada 3.0 isnt handling the return-path header correctly

- or my server is changing it (if, maybe someone has a solution?)

Solutions are welcome

Regards,
Nick

Op 15 apr 2008, om 03:55 heeft Dada Mail (Justin J) het volgende geschreven:

I finally got around to releasing the 3.0 Beta 1 "officially". This version does differ from the, "unofficial" version in a variety of ways. I think the most notable one is that the Bounce Handler Scorecards now have the option to be saved in the SQL backed.

The direct download links:

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mojomail/dada-3_0_beta_1.tar.gz?use_mirror=osdn

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mojomail/dada-3_0_beta_1.zip?use_mirror=osdn

You may want to give this version a shot - and also run the test suite. It's as easy as changing into the, "dada" directory and running the command:

prove -r

You probably don't even have to first configure Dada Mail for the tests to work.

There's some more information in the README file in the, "t" directory,

Cheers,

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url: http://mojo.skazat.com

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[dadadev] Re: 3.0 Beta 1 is out

2008-04-23T07:40:03Z

On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:10 AM, Nick Vervoort wrote:

[dadadev] Re: 3.0 Beta 1 is out

2008-04-23T07:10:03Z

I dont know if this is a bug, or its my server (directadmin, freebsd):

I am trying to set the Return-Path:

it's auto filled with: dada@skazat.com i remove this value, and enter my own, e.g. boun...@example.com

I have the following things activated in sending options:

- Print list-specific headers in all list emails

- Add the Sendmail '-f' flag when sending messages using /usr/sbin/sendmail

- Print the 'Return-Path' header in all list emails

If i look in the mail it states:

Return-Path: <...@server.example.com">adm...@server.example.com>

My guess:

- dada 3.0 isnt handling the return-path header correctly

- or my server is changing it (if, maybe someone has a solution?)

Solutions are welcome

Regards,

Nick

Op 15 apr 2008, om 03:55 heeft Dada Mail (Justin J) het volgende geschreven:

I finally got around to releasing the 3.0 Beta 1 "officially". This version does differ from the, "unofficial" version in a variety of ways. I think the most notable one is that the Bounce Handler Scorecards now have the option to be saved in the SQL backed.

The direct download links:

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mojomail/dada-3_0_beta_1.tar.gz?use_mirror=osdn

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mojomail/dada-3_0_beta_1.zip?use_mirror=osdn

You may want to give this version a shot - and also run the test suite. It's as easy as changing into the, "dada" directory and running the command:

prove -r

You probably don't even have to first configure Dada Mail for the tests to work.

There's some more information in the README file in the, "t" directory,

Cheers,

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url: http://mojo.skazat.com

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[dadadev] Re: 3.0 Beta 1 is out

2008-04-23T00:10:03Z

I've added this problem to the bug traq as well:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1949380&group_id=13002&atid=113002

Here's a list of the current bugs in the beta:

<http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?group_id=13002&atid=113002&set=custom&_status=100&_category=100&_group=100&summary_keyword=3.0+b1
>

If you'd like to submit some bugs, by all means:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=13002&atid=113002

Justin J.

Dada Mail - Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software
url: http://mojo.skazat.com

On Apr 17, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Frans Gouverne wrote:

>
> Hi Justin,
>
> I just have installed 3.0 Beta 1. The new subscriber fields looks
> pretty exiting!
>
> Just a small remark about the GUI:
> The updated layout looks great in Firefox, but unfortunately not so
> well in Internet Explorer v7.0. See the screenshot below. As you can
> see, the grey background is coming out of the top of the <fieldset>
> tag and there is no left or right padding inside the fieldset.
>
> When I change the left and right margin to paddings in the style
> sheet, it looks a bit better in IE7:
>
> fieldset {
> padding-left: 15px;
> padding-right: 15px;
> [...]
>
> Regards,
>
> Frans G.
>
> <dada.jpg>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dada Mail (Justin J)" <...@skazat.com>">d...@skazat.com>;
> To: "Dada Mail Developers Subscriber" <...@dailycom.nl>">f.go...@dailycom.nl>;
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:55 AM
> Subject: 3.0 Beta 1 is out
>
> >
> > I finally got around to releasing the 3.0 Beta 1 "officially". This
> > version does differ from the, "unofficial" version in a variety of
> > ways. I think the most notable one is that the Bounce Handler
> > Scorecards now have the option to be saved in the SQL backed.
> >
> > The direct download links:
> >
> > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mojomail/dada-3_0_beta_1.tar.gz?use_mirror=osdn
> >
> > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mojomail/dada-3_0_beta_1.zip?use_mirror=osdn
> >
> >
> > You may want to give this version a shot - and also run the test
> > suite. It's as easy as changing into the, "dada" directory and
> running
> > the command:
> >
> > prove -r
> >
> > You probably don't even have to first configure Dada Mail for the
> > tests to work.
> >
> > There's some more information in the README file in the, "t"
> directory,
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Justin J.
> >
> > Dada Mail - Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software
> > url: http://mojo.skazat.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[dadadev] Re: Dada Mail 3.0 beta 1 on Bluehost

2008-04-23T00:05:03Z

On Apr 21, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Bruce Scherzinger wrote:

>
> My first Dada Mail installation was in a CPanel X environment. It
> was a snap. My host provides SSH access, which definitely makes life
> easier for testing to see which method of invoking dada_bridge works
> before committing it to a cron tab.

I do concur. Cpanel seems to be a great little platform for something
like Dada Mail.

> Many CPanel installs also use "Fantastico", which might be the
> "super thingy" you referred to earlier.

This is something called, "SimpleScripts", which does a similar thing,
but it looks like you get transported to their website for all the
install stuff. I think one of their big selling points is, "Everything
is on our servers, so no worries!" It's pretty interesting: a web
service for another web service. Here's their website:

https://www.simplescripts.com/

If you'd like to suggest Dada Mail for Fantastico that would be
fantastic(o). I think they already have phpList on there. At last
with SimpleScripts, I was impressed at how flexible their system was
to add a new application. It did literally take them a day in
correspondence to have 3.0 available, with an entirely different
configuration scheme and the SQL backend. That's sort of neat. And
it's going to make me lazy on making my own installer, sadly :)

[dadadev] Re: 3.0 Beta 1 is out

2008-04-22T23:50:04Z

On Apr 22, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Frans Gouverne wrote: